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		<title>Still State of Mind</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[There is still &#8211; after a couple years now, I haven&#8217;t looked back to see when it was exactly, this underlying state of absolute stillness in the mind when I&#8217;m not doing something. I can work all day on writing articles, books, solving some problem, web development, whatever it is&#8230; and then when I stop [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is still &#8211; after a couple years now, I haven&#8217;t looked back to see when it was exactly, this underlying state of absolute stillness in the mind when I&#8217;m not <em>doing</em> something.</p>
<p>I can work all day on writing articles, books, solving some problem, web development, whatever it is&#8230; and then when I stop &#8211; when it&#8217;s done and I don&#8217;t choose to do the next thing &#8211; there is just nothing. The mind is there &#8211; aware&#8230; awake&#8230; ready to do something if i asked something of it &#8211; but, otherwise it&#8217;s just there in an absolutely still state.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not calming to have it happen&#8230; it just is. There is no relief in that state, though afterward I can think about it and say &#8211; oh, that must be good for the <em>me</em> somehow. It must be stress reducing to let the mind go to that state sometimes. Often even maybe.</p>
<p>But, there is something about being in that state for a long time that isn&#8217;t right with my active mind.</p>
<p>I haven&#8217;t let it go on much past a couple minutes.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m trying hard now to understand why the resistance of the active thinking mind of now &#8211; with going into the thoughtless state for a long time&#8230;</p>
<p>1. What is the point? This seems to be a big one&#8230; is there any point to sitting there and experiencing that state? It&#8217;s nothing new anymore, it&#8217;s there every time I stop doing anything with the mind. It&#8217;s not a novelty. It just is. And, it&#8217;s just that&#8230; there&#8217;s nothing really pulling me to do it more.</p>
<p>2. There is some idea in my head that by going into this silence for  a long time, I&#8217;ll come out changed. I saw what happens when the mind first is transformed after experiencing jhanas&#8230; and it&#8217;s a revolutionary change. My wife and I split because I had completely changed. I wasn&#8217;t the person she married &#8211; or the person I even knew.</p>
<p>Is that what is on the horizon for me if I go into this silent space often?</p>
<p>Just doesn&#8217;t seem to be any real good that can come from it when I have responsibilities to my wife, my daughter.</p>
<p>So that&#8217;s how it&#8217;s all going here &#8211; how about YOU?</p>
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<p>Vern</p>
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		<title>Enlightenment Dreams?</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Mar 2010 13:42:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A little status update &#8211; I&#8217;ve not written for a while &#8211; nothing really happening. I&#8217;m not consciously sitting at all to get anywhere&#8230; to get to any state&#8230; I occasionally still have a state come where thought stops in the middle of what I&#8217;m doing and I&#8217;m just sitting here looking at the computer [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A little status update &#8211; I&#8217;ve not written for a while &#8211; nothing really happening. I&#8217;m not consciously sitting at all to get anywhere&#8230; to get to any state&#8230; I occasionally still have a state come where thought stops in the middle of what I&#8217;m doing and I&#8217;m just sitting here looking at the computer (usually) and in complete peace of mind&#8230;. no thought &#8211; no want, need, thinking that i need to do something &#8211; continue what I was doing&#8230; there is no memory of what I was doing a second prior&#8230; very different state&#8230;</p>
<p>Anyway, so maybe 3 -4 times over the past month or so I&#8217;ve noticed that as I sleep &#8211; either falling asleep or actually sleeping and dreaming this happens&#8230;</p>
<p>I find myself doing something &#8211; anything really&#8230; and gradually i let go of the thought&#8230; and they fade out- leaving me with a oneness &#8211; a complete, pure &#8211; untainted oneness like I get with meditation at times&#8230; but it just comes during this waking moment (during sleep)&#8230;</p>
<p>There is more of a totalness to these dream experiences than what happens during real waking hours&#8230;</p>
<p>What I mean is &#8211; I feel a movement &#8211; a change of perception &#8211; of reality &#8211; where I become everything in front of me, behind me, etc&#8230; I become one with it &#8211; but actually become it. The body is completely lost &#8211; gone &#8211; and whatever &#8220;i&#8221; am &#8211; becomes the whole scene in front of me&#8230; I blend into that.</p>
<p>Different than what I have while awake &#8211; but, quite difficult to explain &#8211; like everything that happens &#8211; eh?</p>
<p> <img src='http://www.jhana8.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Still in Thailand. Still working hard on internet projects&#8230; when I stop &#8220;doing&#8221; &#8211; there is nothing. I&#8217;m instantly in that state of no thought &#8211; no desire &#8211; no anything&#8230; and it feels &#8211; ok &#8211; not good, not bad, not happy, not sad, not something cool &#8211; just nothng because thought is absent&#8230; there is an awareness that things have changed &#8211; but thats it&#8230; everything is fine&#8230;</p>
<p>again &#8211; impossible to describe&#8230;</p>
<p>anyone want to share anything happening with you &#8211; ? feel free&#8230;</p>
<p>aimforawesome@gmail.com</p>
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		<title>Short Dream: I’m in the Way</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 06:19:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I just remembered this dream last night, though I had it about 2 weeks ago. I thought I wrote a txt file for it &#8211; like I usually do for odd dreams but I can&#8217;t find it just now. I&#8217;ll try to remember. Wait, maybe better to search my email &#8211; as I&#8217;m sure I [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just remembered this dream last night, though I had it about 2 weeks ago. I thought I wrote a txt file for it &#8211; like I usually do for odd dreams but I can&#8217;t find it just now. I&#8217;ll try to remember. Wait, maybe better to search my email &#8211; as I&#8217;m sure I wrote it down somewhere&#8230;.</p>
<p>No, not there&#8230; Ok, here goes&#8230;</p>
<p>It was a short dream. I was standing up outside. I was leaning back slightly. There was a force holding me up &#8211; as the wind would if it were very strong, but there was no wind &#8211; just  a force.</p>
<p>It was coming from behind and pushing through&#8230; it was as if, if I let go &#8211; it would push straight through me and blow the body apart into pieces&#8230;</p>
<p>There was little feeling of the body at the time &#8211; and the tiniest sense of it &#8211; was all that was left of &#8216;me&#8217;. I guess if that got out of the way &#8211; this force would explode through me&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Layers of Reality 6-21-09</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jun 2009 15:41:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Today I went to one of my favorite quiet spots. I layed down and watched the mind as it responded to stimuli in the environment &#8211; sensed by one of the senses&#8230; To say I watched the mind is not accurate &#8211; but I&#8217;m at a loss how to explain what happened. There doesn&#8217;t appear [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Today I went to one of my favorite quiet spots. I layed down and watched the mind as it responded to stimuli in the environment &#8211; sensed by one of the senses&#8230;</p>
<p>To say I watched the mind is not accurate &#8211; but I&#8217;m at a loss how to explain what happened.</p>
<p>There doesn&#8217;t appear to be a watcher unless I want the watcher there. The watcher is that which is aware that I do what I do. It is the ego I guess. It&#8217;s the &#8220;me&#8221; that I think is me. I can make it stay all day as I do work on the computer &#8211; building websites, doing everything I need to do to make $ to survive and provide for my family.</p>
<p>Well, when it&#8217;s quiet&#8230; when I&#8217;m not &#8216;doing&#8217; anything &#8211; it isn&#8217;t there. Me &#8211; isn&#8217;t there. But, there is some awareness of what is going on in the mind as the mind registers sounds, sights, pain&#8230;</p>
<p>Memory still works too. After I come out of the session where I was just aware of what went on&#8230; I can remember the strange experiences too.</p>
<p>There was a strange occurrence today&#8230;</p>
<p>The eyes were closed &#8211; but the eyeballs behind the eyelids were focused out somewhere &#8211; past the nose &#8211; straight out. The body was sitting now.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s some awareness of a screen or field of vision -even with eyes closed. It&#8217;s an area that&#8217;s lit up a big &#8211; like sitting in a car and looking through a windshield of a car &#8211; which would represent the field of vision shape &#8211; roughly.</p>
<p>As the mind was aware of itself noticing sounds and things and yet creating no thought or linking to memories to figure out what the sounds were the field of vision shifted&#8230; and all turned left. As it did, it revealed a few layers &#8211; I didn&#8217;t count. I just watched. All the layers rotated left so I was looking at the sides of them &#8211; from an angle.</p>
<p>The left most layer which was brightest &#8211; yet still very dull in brightness or hue, dropped away and disappeared. Leaving the other layers. But, when it dropped there was a reality shift in the mind. Something changed.</p>
<p>The mind was aware of this state for a while (15 minutes??) and then the eyes opened and looked at the mountain in front of the eyes. The eyes showed the mountain to the mind &#8211; and the mind responded &#8211; showing colors and shape&#8230; and that&#8217;s it&#8230; no more movement. No naming it &#8211; &#8216;mountain&#8217;. No naming the color green or the trees &#8220;trees&#8221;.</p>
<p>Gradually I came out of it &#8211; or rather, came back into it &#8211; the &#8216;me&#8217; came back into it and got down from the stand and walked down the path to return home.</p>
<p>I wish I had photoshop skills to show you what happened visually&#8230;</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll try to explain again what it resembled&#8230;</p>
<p>Picture looking at an 8&#215;10 piece of paper horizontally in landscape mode &#8211; right out in front of you. This is the field of view &#8211; or the screen of your mind you see when your eyelids are closed but eyes are open behind them.</p>
<p>The paper started rotating left &#8211; as if on an axis in the center of the 11&#8243; side. As it rotated I saw there were multiple papers &#8211; some inches apart that also rotated the same way&#8230; so now there were 2, 3 or more slices of paper turned at an angle so I could see how thin the slices were and that there were more than 2 or 3.</p>
<p>The one on the left fell over flat to the left and then fell beyond view and disappeared. This left the others standing &#8211; and they were much darker and less defined than the first slice of paper. They were fuzzy and got fuzzier and darker the more to the right I looked, at the far right seeming to blend in with the dark of my field of vision as it was then &#8211; very dark, amorphous.</p>
<p>Hope that helped.</p>
<p>During this meditation (before the strange experience above) I also focused on the hands in the lap for a while&#8230; eventually the breath slowed and the hands disappeared&#8230; the body disappeared briefly and came back&#8230; the hands &#8211; forearms stayed gone for some minutes&#8230;</p>
<p>ok &#8211; that&#8217;s enough writing &#8211; tired tonight&#8230;</p>
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		<title>What Am I Looking At? 5-31-09</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2009 10:38:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Over the last few months 6? 8? there&#8217;s been this constant stillness of mind that is always there. If I stop typing right now &#8211; it&#8217;s there &#8211; instant empty mind. No thoughts. It&#8217;s funny&#8230; it&#8217;s the state that I used to try to reach before with sitting sessions. Now it&#8217;s here &#8211; what&#8217;s to [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Over the last few months 6? 8? there&#8217;s been this constant stillness of mind that is always there. If I stop typing right now &#8211; it&#8217;s there &#8211; instant empty mind. No thoughts. It&#8217;s funny&#8230; it&#8217;s the state that I used to try to reach before with sitting sessions. Now it&#8217;s here &#8211; what&#8217;s to try for from this point forward?<br />
Today is last day of May.</p>
<p>5/31/09</p>
<p>i noticed something over the last few days&#8230; my mind is needing some real effort to get started in a different direction.</p>
<p>Between thoughts &#8211; between actions and concerted efforts where I&#8217;m doing something &#8211; there is a break. A revert back to the base of the mind &#8211; which, as I&#8217;ve said has been like a flatline state of activity &#8211; no thought.</p>
<p>So usually I&#8217;m seeing this when i&#8217;m on the computer&#8230; i open a folder and look at the files there and there&#8217;s no recognition about what they are&#8230;</p>
<p>If I stare at a file on my desktop &#8211; it doesn&#8217;t make sense &#8211; nothing about it makes sense &#8211; symbols don&#8217;t turn into thoughts which tell me what I&#8217;m looking at.</p>
<p>So, I can stare at it for a while&#8230; and then I just open it &#8211; double click to see what it is&#8230; then gradually I&#8217;m aware of what it is&#8230;</p>
<p>the strange state is continuing&#8230; <img src='http://www.jhana8.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>vern<br />
If anyone is having or has had a similar experience, please write me&#8230; I don&#8217;t know anyone personally that has had this. Thanks&#8230;  ( AimforAwesome [{ @ ]} gmail. c o m )</p>
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		<title>Nibbana, Nirvana, or Hypnotic State? 5-23-09</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2009 09:28:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[sat 23 may 09 Without writing a book about this&#8230; i want to mention it i guess because if at some point nibbana comes despite my not chasing it &#8211; there should be a path or a succession of things that happened that others can look at to help them realize they too are on [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p style="text-align: left;">sat 23 may 09</p>
<p>Without writing a book about this&#8230; i want to mention it i guess  			because if at some point nibbana comes despite my not chasing it &#8211;  			there should be a path or a succession of things that happened that  			others can look at to help them realize they too are on the same  			path&#8230;</p>
<p>i don&#8217;t appear to be ready for anything to happen&#8230; i swear at the  			dog outside to shut up&#8230; I get frustrated when the computer &#8211; a  			logical device, acts so illogically.</p>
<p>I see myself as if i&#8217;m beside &#8211; and looking on during these times.  			I&#8217;m watching myself act through it&#8230; the body is angry.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">Anyway&#8230; so, saturday i was shooting  			dean&#8217;s welcome video for his sites. in the palm grove next to wat  			tum sang phet.</p>
<p>I was looking at the camera ready to start part of the monologue  			when I had a moment of awakening&#8230; of experiencing the moment &#8211;  			but, it was a state unlike any other I&#8217;ve had&#8230; I&#8217;ve not been  			hypnotized &#8211; but maybe this is what hypnotism is like?</p>
<p>I was staring at the camera&#8230; and the world changed. The camera was  			the center of focus and everything around in the peripheral field of  			view changed to be a little blurred, and then sparkly&#8230; as I  			realized that i slipped into another state I started to be aware of  			the sparkly as vibrations&#8230; i was watching the vibration of  			everything &#8211; moving at cellular level or &#8211; however you wish to  			say&#8230; as if alive&#8230; even the dead leaves on the dirt&#8230; everything  			moved&#8230; appeared to sparkle like stars&#8230;</p>
<p>the background grew a little more bright I think &#8211; not dark like a  			night sky&#8230;</p>
<p>there was no thought&#8230; no emotion&#8230; and just this watching of  			things as they twinkled&#8230;</p>
<p>it was a feeling not too unlike eggata &#8211; one pointedness of mind&#8230;  			where the mind gets so focused on an object that the object is the  			sole focus. This time it was the camera &#8211; just for having been in  			the center of the field of view at that time &#8211; possibly.</p>
<p>was the mind just ready at that time to focus&#8230;?</p>
<p>was the activity i had done for an hour &#8211; talking to the camera  			about dean&#8217;s sites so relaxing and gradually focusing the mind that  			it was prepared to focus instantly like that?</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">there was this idea that if i let go &#8211;  			immersed myself in the experience that that would be &#8216;it&#8217; &#8211; that  			would be the total awakening&#8230;</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">I let go a little and felt another  			change &#8211; my body wasn&#8217;t felt and it was moving increasingly toward a  			100% experience outside of me &#8211; outside the ego&#8230; I grabbed back at  			the ego &#8211; at this ego-filled self and found enough that the process  			stopped expanding and taking me deeper&#8230; then i just stayed in a  			similar state as before and watched it for a little while&#8230; finally  			choosing &#8211; as I nearly always did &#8211; to end it&#8230;  not giving it  			any special attention to continue on&#8230; not grasping at it at all&#8230;</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">in hindsight &#8211; this putting it off when  			it comes&#8230; putting off spontaneous jhana states and other states  			when they come might just be responsible for urging the process on  			further&#8230;</p>
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anyway &#8211; another cool experience as i look back on it&#8230;</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">The state of the mind now &#8211; is same as  			it has been for a while&#8230; i can work when i choose to work. when i  			have nothing going on &#8211; and am not responding to anything &#8211; the mind  			reverts to blankness&#8230; no thought&#8230; no emotion&#8230; no anything.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">Always there is this bit of knowledge in  			my head somewhere that says&#8230; if you let it all go &#8211; that will be  			it&#8230; nibbana will find you&#8230;</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">And so it feels like I&#8217;ve known that for  			so many years&#8230; but now it&#8217;s even harder to ignore as I experience  			states like this one the other day that spontaneously arise&#8230;  			similar to, and yet different from states that occur during jhana  			and other experiences.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">If anyone is having or has had a similar  			experience, please write me&#8230; I don&#8217;t know anyone personally that  			has had this. Thanks&#8230;  ( AimforAwesome [{ @ ]} gmail. c o m )</p>
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		<title>Constant Stillness 5-16-09</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Over the last few months there&#8217;s been this constant stillness of mind that is always there. If I stop typing right now &#8211; it&#8217;s there &#8211; instant empty mind. No thoughts. It&#8217;s funny&#8230; it&#8217;s the state that I used to try to reach before with sitting sessions. Now it&#8217;s here &#8211; what&#8217;s to try for [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p style="text-align: left;">Over the last few months there&#8217;s been  			this constant stillness of mind that is always there. If I stop  			typing right now &#8211; it&#8217;s there &#8211; instant empty mind. No thoughts.  			It&#8217;s funny&#8230; it&#8217;s the state that I used to try to reach before with  			sitting sessions. Now it&#8217;s here &#8211; what&#8217;s to try for from this point  			forward?</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">Is this Nirvana? I was just going to say  			- &#8220;I don&#8217;t think so.&#8221; But, really &#8211; I&#8217;ve no idea. It&#8217;s a very  			different state. I&#8217;ve never met anyone in this state. I&#8217;ve read of  			it happening to a few people but it seemed to be a phase&#8230; It seems  			to be very similar to what UG Krishnamurti described and I&#8217;ll have  			to go back and see some of his videos to see if it&#8217;s a match for his  			experience in any way. I think he used to say that he talked and  			interacted when he did&#8230; and when he stopped &#8211; that was it. There  			was nothing there that was coming out. If someone interacted with  			him &#8211; he could interact back. Me too.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">I think mine goes a step further  			though&#8230; I can also motivate myself to do things. I can work on  			websites, write articles, ride the bike, hike a mountain, etc&#8230;</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">When I&#8217;m not doing anything &#8211;  			consciously focusing on thinking and doing &#8211; it&#8217;s gone. It&#8217;s back to  			the no thought state. It matters little how engrossed I was in  			something before I go back to nothing. It can go back to the  			nothingness state instantly&#8230; without memories replaying or a  			nagging to get back to the thinking/doing state.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">Very strange.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">And so &#8211; it&#8217;s been this way for  			months&#8230; and I&#8217;ve sat to &#8216;meditate&#8217; a few times &#8211; and yet &#8211; what  			was there &#8211; nothing &#8211; same as if i just walk around quietly or drive  			the motorbike, or whatever. I can react to things that are necessary  			- that stimulate me &#8211; I can respond.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">I can consciously DO things &#8211; but, it  			has to be a conscious effort now. Before, my entire life&#8230; things  			came out of the thought circus that was always churning around&#8230;  			now it&#8217;s a concerted effort to actually do something or think  			something &#8211; unless there is an activity &#8211; a stimulation that demands  			response on the outside -and then I can respond easily.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">Anyway &#8211; so that&#8217;s the current state of  			things&#8230;</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">Oh, one more thing.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">I read something about the state of  			perpetual mind or something &#8211; and it reminded me of a state I&#8217;ve  			experienced while in Jhana in the past&#8230; it was a state where the  			mind felt as if it permeated the cosmos&#8230; it was infinite&#8230;  			boundless space &#8211; is how it&#8217;s described in Buddhist texts? I think  			something along those lines&#8230;</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">So, just without thinking I tried to  			feel the same feeling as what the jhana was like before when I  			meditated and went through the different levels and reached it&#8230;</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">it was there instantly.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">There it was&#8230; that feeling that the  			mind was already everywhere. There was no feeling in my arms,  			legs&#8230; body. It was as if the body was gone at that time.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">I stayed like that &#8211; sitting here on  			this chair for a short while &#8211; minute or so?</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">Then went back to what I was doing&#8230;  			giving it a little thought, but not much &#8211; I just got back on the  			computer and continued web development.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">If anyone is having or has had a similar  			experience, please write me&#8230; I don&#8217;t know anyone personally that  			has had this. Thanks&#8230;  ( AimforAwesome [{ @ ]} gmail. c o m )</p>
<p><span style="color: #666666;"><a href="http://seemlessness.thaipulse.com/3-16-08-layers-of-reality.htm"> </a><a title="Layers of reality journal entry..." href="http://www.jhana8.com/meditation-journal/layers-of-reality-3-16-08/" target="_self">Another </a></span><span style="color: #666666;"> <a title="Layers of reality journal entry..." href="http://www.jhana8.com/meditation-journal/layers-of-reality-3-16-08/" target="_self">strange dimensional  			experience 3-16-08</a> &gt;</span></p>
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		<title>Strange and Short Dream 5-1-08</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2009 09:20:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yesterday I layed on the floor in my room after having done some exercise outside. It&#8217;s hot here in Thailand, some days hover close to 40 degrees Celcius. I think that&#8217;s 97 degrees F. Not sure exactly, but it&#8217;s warm, I know that! So I was laying on my back, arms to the side. The [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p style="text-align: left;">Yesterday I layed on the floor in my  			room after having done some exercise outside. It&#8217;s hot here in  			Thailand, some days hover close to 40 degrees Celcius. I think  			that&#8217;s 97 degrees F. Not sure exactly, but it&#8217;s warm, I know that!</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">So I was laying on my back, arms to the  			side. The mind was in the state for meditating and so I tried to  			watch the breath for a while &#8211; forcing myself to watch the breath.  			As has been the case lately, it&#8217;s a hopeless exercise because I  			can&#8217;t get there to be a &#8216;me&#8217; or &#8216;self&#8217; to watch the breath. It&#8217;s  			strangely absent.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">I tried about 10 minutes &#8211; repeatedly  			trying and trying. It just wasn&#8217;t going to happen.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">Instead, I then focused on just relaxing  			the body and not thinking anything &#8211; letting thought stop, mind  			stop.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">A numbness came &#8211; the limbs first and  			then the body was absent. Just felt like there was no body. I was  			aware of sounds, but nothing of body. Mind was still.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">In that state I drifted off to sleep for  			a few minutes. I had a short dream. It was very short. Saying it was  			5 seconds &#8211; is probably exaggerating. It might have been 2 seconds.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">The dream was very short &#8211; one scene. It  			was of two hands holding a head that was glowing &#8211; though already I  			forget what colors &#8211; I believe orange &#8211; but, no matter I think. It  			was glowing as if on fire&#8230; as if a magic fire inside the head. The  			head was neither man nor woman&#8230; it was just a head. It was being  			handed down by two hands &#8211; one on either side of the head. And it  			was set into my head. It was absorbed into my head.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">The feeling as it came into my head was  			one of thanks &#8211; of gratitude that something &#8211; someone &#8211; something &#8211;  			offered me this gift&#8230; whatever it was. There was no idea about  			what it was &#8211; though now, awake &#8211; I could think of some. No point  			really. It was a very unique dream and lasted just seconds. I awoke  			and remembered it for a few minutes. My head was light. My mind  			replaying the scene and searching for the feeling inside.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">The feeling was just &#8216;thanks&#8217;.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">So, that was my strange dream. Today is  			my 42nd birthday. I&#8217;ll sit here in a few minutes, I just feel in  			that state&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Buddhism &#8211; The Truth of It 4-23-09</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2009 09:15:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#8217;m not Buddhist per se. I&#8217;ve never been. I might have thought I was during a time years ago &#8211; but that was ignorance about what I was doing. Meditating in the way of Vipassana doesn&#8217;t make one Buddhist. Reading Buddhist texts doesn&#8217;t make one Buddhist. Learning about Buddhism doesn&#8217;t make one Buddhist. Being Buddhist [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p style="text-align: left;">I&#8217;m not Buddhist per se. I&#8217;ve never  			been. I might have thought I was during a time years ago &#8211; but that  			was ignorance about what I was doing. Meditating in the way of  			Vipassana doesn&#8217;t make one Buddhist. Reading Buddhist texts doesn&#8217;t  			make one Buddhist. Learning about Buddhism doesn&#8217;t make one  			Buddhist. Being Buddhist means believing in Buddhism. This is  			something I&#8217;ve not yet done.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">I&#8217;ve not believed in anything since I  			gave up on Christianity and the god of the bible. I&#8217;ve studied lots  			of religions &#8211; isms&#8230; with beliefs that usually required faith of  			some sort. Faith to me is impossible in any circumstance. I gave it  			up as I left Christianity. I&#8217;ve recognized over the past 20 years  			since then that faith has no role in my life. One can live by  			objective reality and what one experiences. No more is needed. I  			don&#8217;t need to believe in a savior outside of myself. There doesn&#8217;t  			need to be some god waiting to make things better in the end. I&#8217;m OK  			with any scenario after I die &#8211; or here as I live.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">I&#8217;ve read a lot about meditation. Not a  			lot about Buddhism. I&#8217;ve skipped that mostly. I&#8217;ve not wanted to  			know someone&#8217;s idea of what was necessary to find truth outside of  			the physical act of meditation. I don&#8217;t believe that the Buddha was  			anyone special. I don&#8217;t believe that the teachers that taught the  			Buddha the levels of Jhana were anyone special. I don&#8217;t look up to  			anyone. I don&#8217;t have any heroes. I don&#8217;t have any need for  			affiliation with a certain group, religious or otherwise. I just  			don&#8217;t have those needs like most people do. Why? I don&#8217;t know &#8211;  			that&#8217;s just &#8216;me&#8217;. Maybe it&#8217;s you too?</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">I meditated for just under a year back  			around 1997. I sat and watched the breath. The body calmed. The mind  			calmed. The mind stopped. Thoughts stopped. The world stopped.  			Jhanas came rather easily from what I&#8217;ve been told from monks here  			in Thailand. Apparently most people have a heck of a time reaching  			them. They came just naturally for me. I have a theory about &#8216;why&#8217;  			that happened. Briefly it&#8217;s because I didn&#8217;t believe anything about  			Buddhism beforehand. I didn&#8217;t try to follow some magic formula. I  			didn&#8217;t follow the rules of Buddhism. I didn&#8217;t follow a teacher or a  			book or anything. I just sat and watched the breath. When it calmed  			I watched the calm breath. When it felt like it stopped &#8211; I watched  			that. I watched the mind struggle with the idea that the breath  			stopped. I watched the mind calm back down&#8230;</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">I watched the mind enter Jhana levels.  			All eight are familiar to me. I&#8217;ve been there. I&#8217;ve seen the 8th  			Jhana &#8211; I don&#8217;t know how deeply I was in it as I have not become a  			&#8220;never returner&#8221; and I am not an enlightened person. I still have  			the silliness of ego and yet I&#8217;ve been changed &#8211; without a doubt &#8211;  			irreversibly I guess &#8211; because I am not the same person.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">When I ran from meditation it was from  			fear. Fear of going too fast. Fear of losing my mind &#8211; in a mental  			health non-productive way so to speak. I was studying for my masters  			in psychology and the things I experienced during meditation and  			afterward were very similar to symptoms of someone losing their  			mind. I&#8217;ve since come to understand that the western view of the  			mind is quite different from the eastern one. I was told by monks  			that the experiences were normal and advanced and nothing to be  			afraid of. Still, even knowing the Jhanas and other experiences that  			came during concentrated meditation were normal &#8211; the ego was  			disappearing so suddenly and the personality change that accompanied  			that destroyed a marriage very quickly, and put me on a strange  			course of life.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">So &#8211; I ran for 6-7 years or so. Ran away  			from meditation. I built up the ego again &#8211; as much as possible. I  			didn&#8217;t meditate at all for many years. I&#8217;ve since restarted to some  			degree, living here in Thailand and coming to grips with the idiotic  			things I did with my life after running away from meditation.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">And I&#8217;ve meditated again here sometimes.  			Jhanas have come easily and immediately. It seems that when I became  			quiet and sat &#8211; the mind followed very quickly. Currently I seem to  			be experiencing a strange state where there is nothing underneath  			the mind candy of the day when I do decide to be quiet and stop all  			incoming noise.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">What I mean is &#8211; if I stop typing now,  			and I just listen. There is nothing. The mind is active, calm, at  			peace&#8230; There&#8217;s nothing flying around in the mind about wants,  			needs, pain, past, future. It&#8217;s just as if the present moment is  			everything there is. Thoughts are gone. Occasionally thoughts can  			come &#8211; but, they&#8217;re just noted and they go. Sounds &#8211; of chickens  			outside are noted, let go. Cars passing outside, the drapes blowing  			in the wind, a twinge of neck or back pain &#8211; just noted and gone as  			quickly as they came. Not noted by the conscious &#8211; rather, by  			something else. Or maybe by nothing else? Not sure how that could be  			since something must experience something of the object before it  			goes.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">I guess it&#8217;s kind of like a reflective  			board&#8230; The &#8220;me&#8221; has become like a mirror&#8230; the sound of the  			chicken comes in the ear, rattles the eardrum, the mind doesn&#8217;t move  			- the sound bounces off the mind and goes back out the ear &#8211;  			reflected and unchanged.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">That&#8217;s what it seems like. All sensory  			objects seem to be doing this in this state.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">Before this &#8211; (before the end of last  			year) meditation was the best way to get into this state. Now &#8211; it&#8217;s  			just the underlying state all the time. If I&#8217;m not quiet throughout  			the entire day then I experience it at night when I&#8217;m quiet. There&#8217;s  			nothing to distract &#8211; no mind candy like music to bounce around in  			my head. When it&#8217;s quiet &#8211; it&#8217;s like deathly quiet. There&#8217;s nothing  			really. What a very odd state.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">So, getting around to what I wanted to  			write about today&#8230;</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">This idea of Buddhism as having some  			truth never really mattered to me. I suspected that it did have some  			amount of truth in it because immediately my meditation seemed to  			have changed me. Changed the ego. Changed everything. My entire  			perspective on life changed after entering Jhanas even for the first  			time. After the hundredth time or whatever number &#8211; there has been  			profound change. Buddhism says that meditation is a path to  			enlightenment. Is that true? I&#8217;ve still no idea, but it&#8217;s something  			I&#8217;ve started to ask myself.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">There is a western monk that has written  			a couple things &#8211; or talked about a couple things and others have  			transcribed his talks&#8230; that I&#8217;ve become interested in as a  			resource to help me answer my question about Buddhism having any  			truth. The things he says &#8211; sometimes hit me right on. It&#8217;s like  			he&#8217;s talking about me and what I&#8217;ve experienced already. And yet  			there&#8217;s more. I&#8217;m not a finished product. I know this &#8211; but, I  			didn&#8217;t know why really. I mean, I know why &#8211; I ran as fast as I  			could away from this powerful meditation and the process that was  			going on.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">Only recently I&#8217;ve begun to wonder &#8211;  			what is next? What is the point of staying in this present state  			when it seems so unfinished?</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">So, I&#8217;ve read some of his ideas. His  			name is <em><span style="font-family: Trebuchet MS; font-size: small;">Ajahn Brahmavamso.</span></em></p>
<p style="text-align: left;"><span style="font-family: Trebuchet MS;">I&#8217;ve cut and  			pasted a long article (below) he wrote about Deep Insight that was  			really something amazing to me. It was amazing because it hit home  			with me. He talks of the Jhanas in a way which I agree with totally.  			He talks about the states that occur before entering Jhana and then  			that state that occurs as one leaves the Jhana. He talks about  			insight being best practiced while in the state upon exit of Jhana.  			I was amazed that he knew this much about it. I&#8217;ve experienced just  			what he says to be true of the state upon exit&#8230; and it was nice to  			read about what he felt like after coming out of Jhana &#8211; the peace,  			the serenity that lasts, sometimes for days &#8211; is just so  			other-worldly. It was so nice to read he had experienced that as  			there are so few people that can write about it &#8211; or that do write  			about it maybe, with authority.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: left;"><span style="font-family: Trebuchet MS;">It was great  			to read that he thought he might be enlightened after coming out of  			a particularly powerful Jhana session that left him with a changed  			state that lasted overnight. It really does feel like that &#8211; and of  			course, one asks of the self &#8211; am I enlightened &#8211; and there&#8217;s no  			answer. How could there be? Who knows what enlightenment is until  			it&#8217;s felt?</span></p>
<p style="text-align: left;"><span style="font-family: Trebuchet MS;">So I found  			this talk extremely interesting for that aspect of it. Then, as I  			read more I began to understand something about Buddhism that I  			hadn&#8217;t cared to learn about before. All the Pali and Sanskrit words  			that I never bothered to learn and refused to say&#8230; I read about  			some of them. I thought that maybe the Buddhists have something  			here. </span></p>
<p style="text-align: left;"><span style="font-family: Trebuchet MS;">Ajahn  			Brahmavamso said that the best way to insight about the truth of the  			world is that upon exiting the Jhanas one can look at the truth  			about life&#8230; Namely one can look at Impermanence (anicca),  			Suffering (Dukkha), and Not Self (anatta) while in that state. </span></p>
<p style="text-align: left;"><span style="font-family: Trebuchet MS;">He then went  			on to go further into what it meant to look at each of these and  			gave some further explanation. </span></p>
<p style="text-align: left;"><span style="font-family: Trebuchet MS;">I&#8217;d not done  			any purposeful focus on anything related to these things before &#8211;  			and yet, there was a natural inclination of my mind to focus on  			these things to some degree after I came out of the Jhana states as  			I did. I wanted my experience with meditation, with whatever happens  			to be as pure as possible without being influenced by what I thought  			should happen or by what others thought should happen. </span></p>
<p style="text-align: left;"><span style="font-family: Trebuchet MS;">In this way  			all the Jhanas came naturally. I never manipulated the Jhanas by  			focusing on something in particular or not &#8211; the way that he says to  			do so in the following description of Jhanas. I didn&#8217;t want that. To  			me &#8211; the entire idea behind going further with meditation was that  			one &#8220;let&#8217;s go&#8221;. That is the crucial piece of the puzzle that I held  			onto throughout my practice. Let it all go. Nothing is worth  			attaching to that pops into the mind. </span></p>
<p style="text-align: left;"><span style="font-family: Trebuchet MS;">I didn&#8217;t want  			to know that meditation teachers thought I should focus on this or  			that because I didn&#8217;t want to do it. I wanted to let the natural  			process take place however that came about. </span></p>
<p style="text-align: left;"><span style="font-family: Trebuchet MS;">So, in this  			sense &#8211; I was successful at what I thought could work. I let go of  			any teaching other than focusing on the breath until the mind  			stopped. At that point I noted things as they came up and let them  			go. During the day when I wasn&#8217;t meditating I tried to be mindful of  			the present moment like Thich Nhat Hanh taught. That&#8217;s all I did.  			That was the essence of what I thought I needed to experience.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: left;"><span style="font-family: Trebuchet MS;">And, it  			worked. So far so good.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: left;"><span style="font-family: Trebuchet MS;">Now, I find  			myself in this strange state. There is nothing underneath the acting  			of the mind and body that takes place everyday. When I stop &#8211; there  			is nothing in the mind. It&#8217;s empty. It&#8217;s a mirror reflecting back  			out objects as they come and hit the mirror.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: left;"><span style="font-family: Trebuchet MS;">What to do  			with this? Anything? </span></p>
<p style="text-align: left;"><span style="font-family: Trebuchet MS;">I was  			wondering if perhaps I should now use some of what I&#8217;ve learned  			about Buddhism from this teacher and contemplate anicca, Dukkha, and  			anatta with that quiet state of the mind. Should I now abandoned my  			tried and true method for going further into the process? It seems  			to be rolling along on it&#8217;s own &#8211; but, should I now take it and  			direct it somewhat? Should I purposefully look at these things &#8211; to  			find out the truth about them?</span></p>
<p style="text-align: left;"><span style="font-family: Trebuchet MS;">That&#8217;s the  			question. The answer is &#8211; yes, I&#8217;ll do it just for the sake of doing  			it. If it works &#8211; wow. I&#8217;ll have learned something. If not &#8211; no  			matter. No point in not trying since I&#8217;ve read it already! Ha!</span></p>
<p style="text-align: left;"><span style="font-family: Trebuchet MS;">So the point  			of this journal entry is to tell you that I&#8217;m likely going to put  			this into practice and see what comes of it &#8211; if anything. Not  			attached to the idea that something will or won&#8217;t. But, it&#8217;s  			something to do. Ajahn Brahmavamso apparently has gone through these  			things on his own. Has he become enlightened? I don&#8217;t know him. I&#8217;ve  			not met him. I&#8217;d probably not know if I did meet him. I just feel  			something good about him because he has had very similar experiences  			to me. That in itself is quite amazing. Maybe there&#8217;s more I can  			learn&#8230; I think there is more truth in Buddhism &#8211; in their beliefs,  			but before this I wanted to find out entirely on my own. If I use  			this bit of a cheat to examine impermanence, suffering and it works  			- then I&#8217;ll adopt it into my beliefs. If not &#8211; I&#8217;ll go about it the  			same way I was, without guidance, just watching, noting, letting go  			and being mindful during the day.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: left;"><span style="font-family: Trebuchet MS;">Oh, a note &#8211;  			if you do read the transcribed talk below&#8230; I DON&#8217;T agree with him  			about the &#8220;fermented fish curry&#8221; being something not delicious! It&#8217;s  			called, Bla-rah or bla-lah here in Thailand and it&#8217;s spicy and quite  			delicious once you&#8217;ve acquired a taste for it. It&#8217;s exceptional  			really, and one of the things I&#8217;m not looking forward to not having  			if I return to the states.   <img src='http://www.jhana8.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </span></p>
<p style="text-align: left;"><em><span style="font-family: Trebuchet MS;">Have a  			great day!</span></em></p>
<p style="text-align: left;"><span style="font-family: Trebuchet MS;">Vern</span></p>
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<h2><span style="font-family: Trebuchet MS; color: #800000; font-size: small;">Deep Insight</span></h2>
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<p style="text-align: left;"><span style="font-family: Trebuchet MS;">This morning&#8217;s  			talk is the last of the major talks of this retreat and so it&#8217;s nice  			to talk about those things which really count. In other words, it&#8217;s  			about the practice of <strong>deep insight</strong> to find out the way of the  			mind, the way of the world, and also to be able to have such insight  			which can really change one&#8217;s way of looking at things and thereby  			change one&#8217;s life. So this is that deep insight we&#8217;re looking at,  			which is life-changing. And that&#8217;s the sort of deep insight which  			the Buddha was recommending and which forms the heart of this path.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: left;"><span style="font-family: Trebuchet MS;">When I talked  			in the last few days about the Eightfold Path, in some parts of the  			suttas there&#8217;s a Ten-fold Path. They add an extra two factors on the  			end. Did you know that? This is the hidden two factors of the  			eightfold path. We only give these secret teachings at the end of a  			retreat! They&#8217;re not really secret at all. The ninth factor is right  			wisdom, right understanding, <em><strong>samma-nyana</strong></em>, an  			understanding which is not just view, but which is a real deep  			seeing. The tenth factor is the perfect release &#8211; freedom, <em><strong> samma-vimutti</strong></em>. But it&#8217;s nice to add those two factors onto  			the end of the eightfold path. It&#8217;s as if the eightfold path is what  			you&#8217;re doing and the ninth and tenth factors are what happens as a  			result. By practicing the Eightfold Path you get that insight  			wisdom, <em><strong>samma-nyana</strong></em>, the clear seeing into reality.  			Seeing things as they truly are and not as they appear to be, or as  			we want them to be, but as they truly are. A result of that is the  			tenth factor &#8211; perfect freedom. </span></p>
<p style="text-align: left;"><span style="font-family: Trebuchet MS;">Those are two  			factors which need to be stressed in this eightfold path, or tenfold  			path, because they show that this eightfold path is what you do to  			get somewhere. And to get it through insight, through wisdom. But  			when people use that word &#8220;insight&#8221; they should really stress the  			word &#8220;in&#8221; &#8211; actually to see within, to see deep within, to see the  			source of things. Because so much of what people take to be  			&#8220;insight&#8221; is really &#8220;ex-sight&#8221;, and that&#8217;s why it excites you! It&#8217;s  			seeing outside somewhere. And that&#8217;s why it sort of stimulates the  			mind instead of settling it. If it really is true insight it makes  			you very peaceful and calm. So there&#8217;s a difference there and again,  			the main reason why people don&#8217;t get those deep insights is because  			their mind is not calm enough, not powerful enough to see deeply  			within themselves. And that&#8217;s why traditionally, in Buddhism, to  			gain that sort of insight we say the Five Hindrances [1] have to be  			overcome first of all. That&#8217;s the whole job of the Eightfold Path,  			if you like, to overcome the five hindrances, and to get the mind in  			that sort of state that it&#8217;s clear and it&#8217;s powerful, and it can  			discover insight. So the insight is the result of the Eightfold Path  			- and I&#8217;m talking about the big insight now.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: left;"><span style="font-family: Trebuchet MS;">And so to  			overcome those five hindrances that I&#8217;ve been talking about, you&#8217;ve  			seen very clearly in the last eight or nine days that there&#8217;s  			something you should know about &#8211; the hindrances, their power, and  			just how sneaky they are sometimes. Just when you think that you&#8217;re  			getting peaceful, sometimes a thought might come up, a desire, a  			wanting, and that&#8217;s a hindrance which stops you getting into deep  			meditation. Or sometimes a little bit of ill-will towards yourself  			which manifests as impatience &#8211; that&#8217;s a form of ill-will. And to  			see those and hindrances shows you how insidious and difficult are  			these hindrances to overcome. And to gain insight, all the teachers,  			all the texts, all say that without abandoning the five hindrances  			there&#8217;s no insight, there&#8217;s no wisdom. So that should be one&#8217;s  			preliminary job, to overcome these five hindrances. And the way  			those five hindrances are overcome is what I&#8217;ve been teaching here  			this week, the <em><strong>Jhanas</strong></em>. Traditionally, they say that  			where the five hindrances are overcome is called <em><strong>upacara  			samadhi</strong></em>. They call it &#8220;neighborhood concentration&#8221;,  			neighborhood samadhi, where you&#8217;re just right next to <em>Jhanas</em> but not fully in them. It&#8217;s like the entrance to this hall over  			here, you have to pass over the entrance, the neighborhood, to come  			into this room. And also you have to pass over it as you go out.  			These are <em><strong>upacaras</strong></em>, neighborhoods.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: left;"><span style="font-family: Trebuchet MS;">One of the  			mistakes which people make with understanding insight meditation, is  			that they think the neighborhood as you go into <em>Jhana</em> is a  			place where you should do insight. Just stop a bit short of <em>Jhana</em> and try and do insight there. And that is one type of <em>upacara</em>,  			but that is a very difficult one and very unstable, because you&#8217;re  			not really quite sure whether those five hindrances have been  			overcome or not. You&#8217;re not really sure if you&#8217;re in that <em>upacara  			samadhi</em> where insight can truly happen because those hindrances  			are extremely sneaky at that stage, they can manifest just so  			easily. And also if there is a state just before <em>Jhana</em>,  			because of the way of the mind it&#8217;s very unstable, and you can fall  			back so quickly. And that is why some people misunderstand, or fail  			to recognise, that there are two <em>upacaras</em> &#8211; there is the one  			on the way in to<em><strong> </strong>Jhana</em> and there is the one on the way  			out of <em>Jhana</em>. In the same way you pass over the threshold of  			that door on the way in, and also on the way out. And of those two,  			it&#8217;s that <em>upacara samadhi</em> <strong><em>after</em> </strong><em>Jhana </em> which has the qualities of being certain and long-lasting. Having  			trained yourself in this way, you know what <em>Jhanas</em> are, and  			you know that state just afterwards is what the texts call the <em> upacara samadhi</em>. And from your experience you will know that  			state lasts much, much longer, is much more stable, than any <em> upacara samadhi</em> just before you arrive. It&#8217;s because when you  			are experiencing the <em>Jhanas</em>, when you&#8217;re right inside them,  			it&#8217;s as if the five hindrances have been completely knocked out and  			made unconscious. You&#8217;ve slugged them, and the longer you stay in  			that <em>Jhana</em>, the deeper the slug! So much so that when you  			come out of the <em>Jhanas</em>, they are still knocked out &#8211;  			unconscious, inactive. You&#8217;ve beaten them down. And very often if  			you spend a long time in a <em>Jhana</em> they&#8217;re beaten down for a  			long, long time. And anyone who&#8217;s had a very nice meditation,  			especially a <em>Jhana</em>, will know that the state afterwards, the  			happiness, the joy, lasts a long time, effortlessly, because you&#8217;re  			full of energy, clarity, power. And that is the state where insight  			can be found, where insight is made.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: left;"><span style="font-family: Trebuchet MS;">You have to be  			careful, sometimes, of that state after <em>Jhanas</em>, because  			sometimes the experience is so powerful and so beautiful, and  			sometimes the hindrances are knocked out for days. Sometimes for  			days after you get a nice <em>Jhana</em>, you have no desire for  			things of the world. Even the food on your plate you can take or  			leave and you don&#8217;t really care. And you have no sloth or torpor &#8211;  			you can sit until late in the night, get up early in the morning,  			you&#8217;re just so mindful, perfectly, hour after hour, day after day.  			There&#8217;s no ill-will that can come up: even if a mosquito comes you  			sort of welcome it &#8211; &#8220;please come and take some of my blood! Out of  			compassion for all the other people out there, come on take some!&#8221;.  			You get so much compassion because the mind is so high and full of  			joy. And sometimes people think that those states are full  			enlightenment.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: left;"><span style="font-family: Trebuchet MS;">You know, I  			wrote about it in that book &#8220;Seeing the Way&#8221; [2]. I had a nice  			meditation one evening and after that I just wasn&#8217;t tired at all.  			When I lay down to sleep I was so mindful that I didn&#8217;t really need  			to sleep. Just laying there on my side watching the breath gave so  			much happiness, was so peaceful. When I did go off to sleep, it was  			only for a very short time, and I woke up afterwards and immediately  			was just so mindful. Not like it was this morning &#8211; not &#8220;oh, here we  			go again! What shall we do, where am I?!&#8221; &#8211; but completely mindful  			in getting up and going to the hall before three o&#8217;clock, before the  			bell, and sitting meditation there and just going into nice <strong> <em>samadhi</em></strong> all morning. It was great. And I thought &#8220;at  			last, this is it, oh great!&#8221;. And it&#8217;s nice to think you&#8217;re  			enlightened &#8211; it&#8217;s quite a nice way to start the day! </span></p>
<p style="text-align: left;"><span style="font-family: Trebuchet MS;">Some of you  			who know this story know what happened next… when I went on alms  			round I was just perfectly mindful, there were no defilements in the  			mind at all, it was just so clear. Until it came to the meal time.  			And meals are very good if you&#8217;ve got any defilements coming up,  			especially if it&#8217;s the only meal of the day and that&#8217;s all you&#8217;re  			going to get. And I was in a monastery in the north-east of  			Thailand, a very poor monastery away from the cities or towns, and  			usually we used to get the same meal every day, day after day. It  			was sticky rice and what they called rotten fish curry. And it was  			called rotten fish for two reasons &#8211; first of all it was fish which  			was pickled, caught during the rainy season and put in a jar and  			closed up and left to ferment. So it was like &#8220;ripe&#8221; fish. And it  			was also rotten because that was how it tasted! It was really awful  			stuff &#8211; you got sort of used to it but not really used to it. And so  			you&#8217;d have this every day &#8211; rotten fish curry with your rice, and  			that was all you had. But this one day it just happened after I  			became &#8220;enlightened&#8221;, somebody made us this pork curry (there was no  			vegetarian food in those places) as well as the rotten fish curry,  			and as soon as I saw this I thought &#8220;I&#8217;m going to have something  			nice to eat today&#8221;. And the abbot (I was second in line), this Thai  			monk, he took these really big scoops of this pork curry, huge  			scoops, and put it in his bowl. And I thought that was really  			greedy, but it didn&#8217;t matter because there was plenty left for me.  			But what he did next was, after taking out two huge scoops for  			himself (and he didn&#8217;t take any of the rotten fish curry &#8211; even he  			didn&#8217;t like it!)… he said &#8220;well, it&#8217;s all the same isn&#8217;t it,  			whatever curry it is, it&#8217;s just the four elements&#8221; and then he  			poured all the curries together and mixed them up. And I thought &#8220;if  			you really thought that, then why didn&#8217;t you mix them up before you  			took yours! Now I haven&#8217;t got any nice food today&#8221;. And I got really  			angry at this monk, really livid at him, thinking &#8220;how can you do  			this, taking away my nice meal. It&#8217;s not every day we get this nice  			pork curry. And you&#8217;re a north-easterner &#8211; I&#8217;ve come from the West,  			I&#8217;m not used to rotten fish, you should be used to rotten fish. Now  			you&#8217;ve mixed it all up!&#8221; And what stopped me from getting more and  			more angry was the thought &#8220;hang on, I&#8217;m supposed to be  			enlightened!&#8221; And that really makes you depressed, when you find out  			that you&#8217;re not enlightened after all. That spoiled my whole day!</span></p>
<p style="text-align: left;"><span style="font-family: Trebuchet MS;">But that&#8217;s  			what happens sometimes, because for many hours the defilements are  			just gone, and you&#8217;re just so clear and bright and you think &#8220;wow,  			this is it, this is the way it should be&#8221;. Perfectly clear and  			peaceful and light. But it&#8217;s not, it&#8217;s just <em>samadhi</em> experience. So, be careful sometimes that you don&#8217;t come back and  			say that you&#8217;re enlightened because little things like the  			hindrances will, sooner or later, when they&#8217;ve recovered, come up  			and will play with you again, take you around by the nose.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: left;"><span style="font-family: Trebuchet MS;">But the  			important thing with that <em>upacara samadhi</em> which is after <em> Jhana</em>, that is the time to really get into <strong>deep insight</strong>,  			because your mind is powerful. The mind has energy, it has clarity,  			and the five hindrances aren&#8217;t there. This is the time when you can  			see what you don&#8217;t want to see, what you don&#8217;t expect to see,  			because all that wanting and all that expecting has been subdued.  			And you know it&#8217;s been subdued because you&#8217;ve gained that <em>Jhana</em>.  			I think many of you know how expectations and wants are the very  			barriers which stop you getting those <strong><em>nimittas</em></strong> and entering <em>samadhi</em>. And so by training yourself to subdue  			those wants and expectations, those desires, they are knocked cold,  			they disappear, you enter <em>Jhana</em>, and when you come out again  			they&#8217;re still not around. Because there&#8217;s no wanting, there&#8217;s no  			expectations, you can see what&#8217;s truly there rather than what you  			see or what you expect to see. That&#8217;s where deep insight arises. The  			expectations are as much a hindrance to <em>Jhanas</em> as they are to  			insight. That&#8217;s why, when insight happens (this is one of the  			characteristics of it) it&#8217;ll always be something which you never  			expected. Quite different than what you thought it would be. That&#8217;s  			why it&#8217;s called an insight &#8211; you&#8217;re seeing something from a fresh  			angle, something new, something completely different.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: left;"><span style="font-family: Trebuchet MS;">However, there  			are ways of encouraging those insights to happen, especially after  			the <em>Jhanas</em>. And the way to encourage them, in the words of  			the Buddha is to get the <em>Jhanas</em> and then standing on that  			experience, develop the insights into<em> <strong>anicca, Dukkha,  			anatta</strong></em>. The three characteristics of impermanence,  			suffering and not-self. &#8220;Standing on that experience&#8221;, using that  			experience both as your power source and also as your data to  			investigate these three areas of reality. And those three areas,  			again, are impermanence (it&#8217;s wider than impermanence &#8211; I&#8217;ll mention  			more about <em>anicca</em>), suffering and not-self. </span></p>
<p style="text-align: left;"><span style="font-family: Trebuchet MS;">The  			impermanence, the first thing one can really watch, is the  			uncertainty of everything. Because one of the meanings of <em>nicca</em>,  			the opposite to <em>anicca</em>, is something which is certain, which  			is regular, something you can rely upon. So the opposite means that  			things which are there will suddenly disappear, unreliable,  			irregular. And it&#8217;s interesting contemplating that word, <em>anicca</em> &#8211; <em>unreliable</em>, because how often do we seek for something to  			rely upon in this world. Some little place of security, something we  			think is always going to be there for us to come home to, either  			physically or mentally. Some sort of refuge, inside the mind or  			inside the world, a place of safety or a thing of security. What <em> anicca</em> is doing is saying that all of &#8220;that&#8221; is insecure, is  			insubstantial, is irregular, and you cannot rely upon it. The  			tendency of the human being is maybe to admit that a lot of the  			world is unreliable but to seek some sort of secure place, or secure  			person or secure mind state, which you think is secure and is always  			going to be there. That&#8217;s why some people look for partners in the  			world, someone you can rely upon, someone who&#8217;s always going to be  			there for you, a soul-mate. But all soul-mates eventually disappear,  			they go, they too are unreliable, as you find out when you marry  			one! </span></p>
<p style="text-align: left;"><span style="font-family: Trebuchet MS;">But not only  			that, but people also rely on places and things, the little  			hide-aways, the nice little houses, the little nests. And even those  			are unreliable. Eventually they will disappear as well. But we also  			have the little nests inside of our minds, some little place that we  			rely upon. But even that, <em>anicca</em>, when it gets in there,  			reveals that even that is insecure. That&#8217;s why <em>anicca</em>, when  			you see it clearly, is quite frightening. It brings up the feeling  			of complete insecurity. There&#8217;s no place where you can stand. No  			place where you can sit down. Everything is always changing. And  			because of the fear which arises when one starts to look at <em> anicca</em>, it means that unless you&#8217;ve got the powerful mind-states  			of <em>Jhanas</em> or <em>post-Jhanas</em>, you&#8217;ll never be able to pass  			through that fear and see through to reality. There&#8217;ll always be  			some part of existence you&#8217;ll think is secure, reliable, permanent.  			And that&#8217;s why we aren&#8217;t enlightened. </span></p>
<p style="text-align: left;"><span style="font-family: Trebuchet MS;">Sometimes we  			think it&#8217;s not very nice to realize insecurity, but it&#8217;s wonderful  			to realize the truth of insecurity for two reasons. One, because  			when you know you haven&#8217;t got a home (in all senses of that word),  			then you can be like a bird, you can fly everywhere. Every place is  			a tree where you can rest for a while. You&#8217;ll never think that you  			own that particular tree, that &#8220;that&#8217;s mine and the other birds  			should keep out&#8221;. You can share. Two, it also means that when you  			realize that all these things are completely changing, then when  			they do change, when they do disappear, when things alter, you&#8217;re  			never surprised. You realize that this is actually the truth of  			things, that their insecurity is actually a freedom. Security is  			like being in prison, being bonded to something. So after a while,  			one gets quite a sense of release with insecurity, a sense of being  			able to fly and being able to go where one wishes rather than being  			bound down. </span></p>
<p style="text-align: left;"><span style="font-family: Trebuchet MS;">And so this is  			what happens when we look at <em>anicca</em>, it gives us a sense that  			all this is coming and going, that there&#8217;s nothing which is stable,  			no place that we can rest on. But in particular, the <em>anicca</em> which is going to discover the third aspect of the three  			characteristics of existence, <em>anatta</em>, that is the <em>anicca</em> which is very difficult to apply. <strong><em>That&#8217;s anicca which  			applies to the one who sees anicca</em></strong>. Sometimes to see  			the one who&#8217;s seeing is just so difficult &#8211; it&#8217;s like trying to  			catch an eel, it&#8217;s so slithery and slippery. As soon as you catch it  			it&#8217;s slipped away again. Or it&#8217;s like a dog trying to catch its  			tail. The self trying to see the self. And this is why seeing <em> anicca</em> in the doer and the seer is just so hard to do. This is,  			again, one of the reasons why we can&#8217;t do this is because we don&#8217;t  			want to do it, we don&#8217;t like to do it, we&#8217;d rather not see the  			insubstantiality of everything. It&#8217;s just too frightening, it&#8217;s just  			too challenging, it&#8217;s just cutting too deep. So the only way that  			can actually happen is if after a good meditation, which is just so  			peaceful, and we&#8217;re so happy and joyful, that that happiness and joy  			overcomes any fear and we can go so deep into insight.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: left;"><span style="font-family: Trebuchet MS;">In the same  			way, and you&#8217;ve heard me tell you this before, the only way you can  			be open to hearing things you don&#8217;t want to hear, to criticism for  			example, is when you&#8217;re in a good mood. If you&#8217;re in a really good  			mood and you&#8217;re really high, then I can tell you anything which is  			wrong with you, even personal things, and you don&#8217;t mind. That&#8217;s why  			I tell people who are in relationships with husbands and wives, if  			there&#8217;s something very difficult you have to tell your partner, some  			criticism which you think they might not really take very well, then  			take them out to dinner, dress up really nicely, take them out to a  			really nice dinner, give them the very best food, what they really  			like, and then, when they&#8217;re on the last course, when they&#8217;re really  			nice and happy, all soft and smiley, you can tell them anything and  			they&#8217;ll accept it. You can give all sorts of criticism, which is  			personal or otherwise, and because they&#8217;re happy and relaxed, they  			can listen, they don&#8217;t feel challenged. But if you tell them when  			they&#8217;ve just come home from work after a hard day, then &#8220;that&#8217;s it,  			I&#8217;m calling the lawyers, this is divorce!&#8221; This is what happens  			because when you&#8217;re feeling happy and when you&#8217;re feeling relaxed,  			you&#8217;re more open to seeing or hearing what you don&#8217;t want to hear or  			see. </span></p>
<p style="text-align: left;"><span style="font-family: Trebuchet MS;">In the same  			way, when you&#8217;ve had a good meditation, everything&#8217;s nice and  			peaceful, you&#8217;ve got so much happiness, then you&#8217;re much more open  			to seeing those insights which you would normally never allow  			yourself to contemplate. <em>There&#8217;s no-one here</em>. Life is  			suffering. Everything is impermanent. Those are challenging. Take  			the suffering of life. This goes completely against the grain. &#8220;Life  			is beautiful. Life is a bowl of cherries. Life is out there for you  			to enjoy. Go out and experience. If you can&#8217;t actually go there,  			then get a video on it&#8221;. There&#8217;s so many ways to enjoy yourself in  			this world &#8211; they&#8217;ve even got virtual reality now. Soon, you&#8217;ll be  			able to get virtual <em>Jhanas</em>! Just put on this little mask,  			push a button, and all these beautiful <em>nimittas</em> will come up  			and lead you into virtual <em>Jhanas</em>! So you don&#8217;t have to sit on  			the floor and waste all these nine or ten days, just do it in half  			an hour at a virtual reality store. I&#8217;m sure that someone will try  			that one of these days. But that&#8217;s not the way it works. We&#8217;d like  			to have it the easy way, but sometimes it takes a lot of giving up  			and letting go. But actually to see suffering is to see something  			that, by its very nature, we don&#8217;t want to see. </span></p>
<p style="text-align: left;"><span style="font-family: Trebuchet MS;">I was talking  			about perceptions the other day, actually right throughout the  			retreat. There was a very fascinating experiment done, I think it  			was at Harvard, to examine the way the mind perceives things, where  			they flashed images up on the screen. They got a few volunteer  			students to sit and see what was going on, with a notepad by their  			side. First of all they flashed these images up so fast that there  			wasn&#8217;t really time to understand them &#8211; they were just a flash on  			the screen. And they asked these students to write down what they  			perceived. And all they could see was, like, a flash of light &#8211;  			that&#8217;s all. Then they increased the exposure on the screen, from  			one-hundredth of a second to, say, two-hundredths of a second. They  			still only saw a flash. And they kept on increasing the time of  			exposure on the screen incrementally until there was a flash there  			and they could catch something, they could perceive something, then  			they could write down what it was. And they kept on increasing it  			until they could see it more clearly and write down what it was.  			Some very interesting things happened when they kept on increasing  			the exposure more and more and more. At a very early exposure  			length, when they thought they understood what was there, they  			continued writing the same thing, kept on seeing it in exactly the  			same way. One example was when the actual photograph was a bicycle  			on the stairs going up to one of the lecture halls. One of the  			students perceived it as a ship. It&#8217;s quite easy to do this because  			it was only shown very quickly, and perception just grasps something  			and they said it was a ship. The interesting thing was that as the  			exposure time was increased, incrementally, he still said it was a  			ship. And at times, when every person who was exposed at that  			particular length would say it&#8217;s a bicycle on the stairs, they would  			still see it as a ship. The old perceptions had imprinted themselves  			on the mind they actually saw that image according to their old  			views. And it took them a really long exposure on the screen to  			change their old ideas and say &#8220;it&#8217;s not really a ship, it&#8217;s a  			bicycle on the steps going to a lecture hall&#8221;. </span></p>
<p style="text-align: left;"><span style="font-family: Trebuchet MS;">What was  			interesting there was how, through the perceptions that we have, we  			form these really strong views, which make us see the whole world to  			conform to those views, even though they&#8217;re completely wrong. That&#8217;s  			why it&#8217;s so difficult to catch the illusions of self, the illusions  			of suffering,<strong> <em>the illusions of anicca</em></strong>. We  			need to have that strong exposure, not just for a second but for  			long periods of time, to see that we&#8217;ve been seeing it in the wrong  			way. It&#8217;s not a ship after all, it&#8217;s just a bicycle on the steps.  			It&#8217;s not a self after all, it&#8217;s just a process. Life is not such a  			bowl of cherries, life is a bowl of rotten eggs! </span></p>
<p style="text-align: left;"><span style="font-family: Trebuchet MS;">And the other  			interesting thing about this experiment, is that they found that  			images which were repulsive, which were abhorrent, took people much  			longer exposures to see them as they really are. One of the images  			they showed on the screen was of two copulating dogs. And that took  			the longest of all the images for them to figure out what it really  			was. The reason was because they didn&#8217;t want to see that &#8211; that was  			repulsive. If it had been an image of, like, a beautiful model, they  			would have seen that in a few seconds. But they didn&#8217;t want to see  			it and therefore they didn&#8217;t want to see it. And that was really  			fascinating because that was reinforcing what the Buddha&#8217;s been  			saying for, like, twenty five centuries. That with the hindrances  			operating, <em>we only see what we want to see</em>. We don&#8217;t see  			what&#8217;s real. And sometimes the exposure need to be so long and right  			in front of our face before we truly admit what&#8217;s going on in the  			world. </span></p>
<p style="text-align: left;"><span style="font-family: Trebuchet MS;">But with  			suffering, this is the problem &#8211; we don&#8217;t want to see suffering,  			therefore we don&#8217;t see it. We live in a fantasy world, that life is  			happy, that you get married and you&#8217;re happy ever after. You get the  			perfect relationship. I remember one lady kept on telling me, no  			matter what I said to her about Buddhism, she said &#8220;I know he&#8217;s out  			there somewhere &#8211; the perfect man for me. It&#8217;s just that I have not  			met him yet. I don&#8217;t know where he is, but I know he&#8217;s out there  			somewhere&#8221;. And she was in her late forties and she still said  			stupid things! People live in fantasy land most of the time &#8211; not  			real at all. Or the people that think that if you get the right  			medicines then you never need to die, and that aging is something  			that is healable, curable, something which is not necessary. All  			these ideas, the fantasies which people have, are just not being  			real.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: left;"><span style="font-family: Trebuchet MS;">So when we  			start looking at the truth of <em>Dukkha</em>, we have to be very  			courageous to see that. Not just courageous, but we have to be very  			sneaky as well. And again, this is why we do something like the <em> Jhana</em> meditations, because we feel so happy, so peaceful (like  			the husband or wife who&#8217;s been taken out by their partner to a  			beautiful dinner), and the feeling&#8217;s so rested, so at peace, that  			we&#8217;re actually open to seeing or hearing what we don&#8217;t want to hear,  			what we didn&#8217;t want to see. That&#8217;s how you sneak up on <em>Dukkha</em>,  			and you can finally accept it. There&#8217;s one particular area of <em> Dukkha</em> which we don&#8217;t want to see &#8211; at least we think that <em> <strong>we&#8217;re</strong></em> happy. That&#8217;s why when you go home from this  			retreat, doesn&#8217;t matter how much suffering you have on a retreat,  			when you go home again you say it was really worthwhile, it was  			really good. Because you&#8217;d look like such a fool if you said it was  			really terrible, full of suffering, that you spent all this money on  			this. Even on retreats where you have to go through a lot of  			physical pain, you get conned into saying that it was a lot of pain  			but that you discovered something wonderful. If you didn&#8217;t say that  			you&#8217;d be really embarrassed that you&#8217;d been wasting this time. </span></p>
<p style="text-align: left;"><span style="font-family: Trebuchet MS;">It&#8217;s the same  			as when you go on holiday. Everyone who goes on holiday, when they  			come back afterwards and their friends ask &#8220;how was it?&#8221;, they say  			they had a wonderful time. Even though you&#8217;re lying through your  			teeth. Even though you had a terrible time. Because it makes you  			sound so foolish if you say you had a terrible time going through  			customs, the hotel was rotten, it rained all the time, that you had  			arguments with the person you went with… you&#8217;d feel such a fool! And  			also it&#8217;s just not done, it&#8217;s not our custom. Everyone knows that  			when you come back from a holiday you say you had a really wonderful  			time. Everyone knows that you write a postcard to your friends  			saying &#8220;having a wonderful time, wish you were here&#8221;. No-one says  			&#8220;having a rotten time, wish I was back home!&#8221; So sometimes just be  			careful of the ways that we lie. </span></p>
<p style="text-align: left;"><span style="font-family: Trebuchet MS;">We don&#8217;t face  			reality because of our social conditioning. It&#8217;s the same as if you  			go to a funeral. I&#8217;ve been giving funeral services for a long time.  			Even for me, it took many years to get up the courage to tell a joke  			at a funeral service. You know that I like telling jokes. Because  			it&#8217;s not done to tell jokes at funeral services. You can do it at  			some other time, any other time, but the one time you&#8217;re not meant  			to tell a joke is when there&#8217;s a stiff in the coffin! It&#8217;s being  			disrespectful, isn&#8217;t it? But actually when I did get the courage to  			do it, all the people said &#8220;Thank you so much. It made us feel good  			and the person who died was always telling jokes and they would have  			really appreciated that one.&#8221; I&#8217;m sure I could hear the coffin  			rattling as they were laughing! </span></p>
<p style="text-align: left;"><span style="font-family: Trebuchet MS;">But we have  			these taboos which are incredibly difficult to break. One of those  			taboos is facing up to that life is suffering. That&#8217;s a taboo that  			people don&#8217;t want to recognise. And that&#8217;s why you have to creep up  			on it and find that all this world is all suffering. You know the  			taboo of looking at a sunset or beautiful flower and, it&#8217;s really  			challenging to say that all flowers, even the most beautiful flower,  			is suffering. People think you&#8217;re just crazy or you&#8217;re weird, or  			you&#8217;ve been a monk too long, and you should come back into the real  			world! It&#8217;s a taboo &#8211; flowers are beautiful, everyone knows that.  			The sunset is so wonderful, the mountains, the forests…</span></p>
<p style="text-align: left;"><span style="font-family: Trebuchet MS;">To challenge  			that is very difficult to do. So this is where you do need to have  			that ability to go against preconceived notions which go so deep  			inside of you, you wouldn&#8217;t believe just how deeply they are  			embedded in you. And the most deeply embedded notion is not the idea  			that &#8220;life is happiness&#8221;, but that &#8220;you are&#8221;. That&#8217;s the deepest  			notion which is the hardest one to eradicate, the <em>anatta</em>,  			that &#8220;I am&#8221;. And that view is just so tricky, so slippery, it&#8217;s just  			like trying to shoot a bird a million miles away through the eye  			with an arrow. It&#8217;s just so tricky to see this self, this &#8220;me&#8221;. And  			this is why the Buddha gave, not just the <em>Jhanas</em> to give the  			mind power, and to be able to see what it doesn&#8217;t want to see, but  			he also gave the four <em><strong>satipatthanas</strong></em>, as a way of not  			wasting time, to be able to focus on the four areas where the  			illusion of self really hangs out. Because there&#8217;s many places where  			you might try to look for the illusion of self, but the four main  			areas are the <strong><em>rupa</em></strong>, your body, <strong><em> vedana</em></strong>, the feelings, <strong><em>citta</em></strong>,  			the mind which knows, and the mental objects, <em><strong>dhamma</strong>, </em>especially the doer, will. Those are the four areas. And so,  			having heard a teaching like the <em>satipatthana</em>, having  			practiced the Eightfold Path, when the mind is in <em>Jhanas</em> and  			it comes out afterwards see if you can remember to employ the <em> satipatthana</em>, especially for one purpose and one purpose only:  			not to see <em>anicca</em>, but to see <em>anatta</em>, not-self. That  			is the deepest, most fundamental block which is stopping you from  			being enlightened, which stops you being free. </span></p>
<p style="text-align: left;"><span style="font-family: Trebuchet MS;">One of the  			ways which I practice myself, and teach other people to practice, is  			to ask yourself a question. Not &#8220;is there a self?&#8221;, that&#8217;s just too  			philosophical. But to ask yourself: -<em><strong>&#8220;What do I take to  			be my self? Who do I think I am? Who do I perceive I am? What is  			this &#8220;me&#8221; I assume to exist?&#8221;</strong> </em>When you ask that  			question, whatever comes up as an answer, challenge it. Am I this  			body? I look in the mirror each morning and smile &#8220;there I am  			again&#8221;. Is that me, this body? Sometimes we&#8217;re very sophisticated  			intellectually and we think &#8220;of course I&#8217;m not my body&#8221;. On the  			thought level we might say that, but when we get sick or we&#8217;re dying  			we realize that that&#8217;s just superficial wisdom. It hasn&#8217;t gone deep  			enough. We are still attached to our body. We still think it&#8217;s ours. </span></p>
<p style="text-align: left;"><span style="font-family: Trebuchet MS;">The Buddha  			gave a test to see if you really are attached to these things,  			whether you think they&#8217;re &#8220;mine&#8221;. This is a story of when he was  			walking with some monks in the Jeta Grove and he pointed out some  			twigs and leaves on the ground and he said &#8220;Monks, what would  			happen, how would you feel if some people came along and collected  			all these twigs and leaves and put them into a big heap, and then  			set fire to them all? And then once the fire had died down, they  			took all the ashes and threw them to the four winds until they were  			completely dispersed. What would your reaction be if they did that?&#8221;  			And the monks said &#8220;Nothing, because these things aren&#8217;t ours, they  			don&#8217;t belong to us. They&#8217;re just sticks and leaves, that&#8217;s all&#8221;.  			&#8220;Very good&#8221;, said the Buddha, &#8220;Now monks, what would happen if the  			lay people took all of you and put you in a heap and set you on  			fire, until you&#8217;re just ashes, and then threw those ashes to the  			four winds, would you be upset? Would you be really worried?&#8221; And  			according to the texts, I don&#8217;t know if they really meant this but  			they certainly knew the right answer, the monks replied &#8220;No, no, we  			wouldn&#8217;t be at all worried!&#8221; And the Buddha asked &#8220;Why is that  			monks?&#8221; And they said &#8220;Because this body isn&#8217;t ours, it&#8217;s nothing to  			do with us, it&#8217;s not me or mine.&#8221; </span></p>
<p style="text-align: left;"><span style="font-family: Trebuchet MS;">Now that&#8217;s a  			test to see if you really see this body as a self, whether you&#8217;re  			willing to let it go or not. That&#8217;s why, when we say, look at <strong>the  			body </strong>in the four <em>satipatthanas</em>, don&#8217;t run over that too  			quickly, don&#8217;t just say &#8220;I&#8217;ve done that one already, I know this  			body isn&#8217;t me or mine, it&#8217;s just bones, it&#8217;s just flesh, I&#8217;ve seen  			that in the documentaries, I&#8217;ve seen that in the photographs.&#8221; Be  			careful, because you&#8217;ve been living with this body so closely for so  			many years, there&#8217;s a little sneaky attachment which has gotten in  			there, and you really think that this is you. And that gets  			challenged through old-age, sickness and death. And if you tremble  			at sickness or pain, if you tremble at the thought of old-age or  			death, you still need to do some more body contemplation. </span></p>
<p style="text-align: left;"><span style="font-family: Trebuchet MS;">So, when a big 			<em>Jhana</em> happens, and then afterwards, say &#8220;what do I take  			myself to be?&#8221; Look at this body and see those little attachments,  			even though they might be stupid, they were something that you could  			not see because you did not want to see it. And eradicate,  			completely, the idea that the body is yours or you. It&#8217;s just  			nature, it just belongs to nature, you&#8217;ve got nothing much to do  			with it. </span></p>
<p style="text-align: left;"><span style="font-family: Trebuchet MS;">The second  			thing, about <em>vedana</em>, <strong>the sensations</strong>, don&#8217;t take them  			too lightly. It&#8217;s just as obvious that this isn&#8217;t me. Every time you  			have happiness, or pain, do you automatically think &#8220;this is my  			happiness, this is me feeling it&#8221;? If you do, again you haven&#8217;t seen  			the truth of <em>anatta</em>. After <em>Jhanas</em>, look closely at  			this whole play of <em>vedana</em>, and you see it&#8217;s just like the  			play of light and shadows, cast by the trees and the leaves. Where  			there&#8217;s light there&#8217;s no shadow, where there&#8217;s shadow there&#8217;s no  			light. As the leaves move in the wind, as the sun goes over, what  			was light is now shadow and what is shadow is now light. What is  			pain is now pleasure. What was beauty is now ugliness, what was  			ugliness is now beauty. This is the play of <em>vedana</em>, it&#8217;s no  			more than that. Seeing that means, if you see it fully through the  			power of <em>Jhanas</em>, that you&#8217;ve done the second <em>satipatthana</em> and you are completely detached. Detached means that there is no-one  			holding on to the <em>vedana</em>, the pleasure or pain. </span></p>
<p style="text-align: left;"><span style="font-family: Trebuchet MS;">Remember, a  			lot of people think that attachment is all about what&#8217;s out there.  			The cause of attachment is not so much what&#8217;s out there, it&#8217;s what&#8217;s  			holding on inside. The claw, I call it. It&#8217;s a claw inside which  			keeps on going outside into the world and attaching to particular  			things. No matter how many times you put things down, you let go,  			and let go and let go, you&#8217;ll never be able to end attaching until  			you see that claw and cut it off. It&#8217;s the claw which needs to be  			looked at, seen, and eradicated. That&#8217;s the only way to stop  			attaching once and for all. And that claw is the illusion that all  			these things belong to us, especially <em>vedana</em>. To see that  			this is just the play of nature. In the same way that a person who  			understands why there is light and why there is shadow under a tree  			realizes that it&#8217;s nothing to do with them. They leave the light and  			shadow alone, knowing that if they prefer one or the other then soon  			it will change. If you prefer suffering or if you prefer happiness,  			it doesn&#8217;t matter, it&#8217;ll just change and then go it&#8217;ll go back  			again. Up and down, coming and going, that&#8217;s pleasure and pain in  			life. So after the <em>Jhana,</em> you do the second <em>satipatthana</em>,  			you investigate this <em>vedana</em>, seeing it as it truly is, not as  			you want it to be, realizing it&#8217;s completely out of your control no  			matter how wise, skilful or powerful you are. The idea of getting  			just pleasant <em>vedana</em> and avoiding the unpleasant, you see, is  			a complete impossibility, it goes against nature, it cannot be done.  			So you give up, you let go. </span></p>
<p style="text-align: left;"><span style="font-family: Trebuchet MS;">Also, one of  			the deeper places where a person thinks they exist (and I&#8217;ve already  			mentioned this) is <strong>the will</strong>. And that&#8217;s part of the fourth <em> satipatthana</em>, <strong>the doer</strong>, the chooser. That&#8217;s a very hard  			thing to see. You can see its results, with all of the controlling,  			the disturbing, which has been going on for the last nine days,  			caused by this thing &#8211; the doer. But even so, it&#8217;s so hard to give  			this thing up. Even so, that you know that letting go is a way into 			<em>Jhana</em>, but you can&#8217;t somehow achieve that letting go, you  			can&#8217;t do the letting go. And once I describe it that way it&#8217;s  			obvious why you can&#8217;t &#8220;do&#8221; the letting go… you have to allow it to  			happen. The biggest problem that people have with the <em>Jhanas</em> is that they try and &#8220;do&#8221; it, they try and control it, they try and  			will it, they try and steer their vehicle into a <em>Jhana</em>.  			You&#8217;ve got to have your hands completely off the steering wheel. In  			fact, you&#8217;ve got to dismantle the steering wheel before you get into 			<em>Jhanas</em>. There&#8217;s an entry fee to <em>Jhanas</em>, something you  			have to give up at the door, and that&#8217;s &#8220;you&#8221;. A lot of people would  			like to go into <em>Jhanas</em> but they&#8217;d like to be there at the  			same time. They want to take the doer in there, to have control. And  			that&#8217;s why they can&#8217;t get in. That&#8217;s why it takes &#8220;something&#8221; to get  			into a <em>Jhana</em>. You see the beautiful <em>Jhana</em> in there but  			you want to take &#8220;you&#8221; with you. And you can&#8217;t. So after a while,  			you leave &#8220;you&#8221; outside and go in and have fun. Then you realize  			just how &#8220;you&#8221;, the doer, has been such a burden, such a terrible  			companion for you, causing all kinds of pain and suffering. That&#8217;s  			what the Buddha called<em><strong> &#8220;the house-builder&#8221;</strong></em>. </span></p>
<p style="text-align: left;"><span style="font-family: Trebuchet MS;">Once you&#8217;ve  			been in a <em>Jhana</em> you&#8217;ll never trust this doer so much again.  			You never trust that within you which is, even now, trying to do  			something, think something, say something, control something. That  			doer, to see that is not you, is completely caused, arises and  			passes away according to natural laws,. If you can see that then  			you&#8217;ve got a very powerful insight. Half, fifty percent, of the  			illusion of self is then completely gone, and life becomes so much  			easier. You can flow with things rather than always controlling  			them, because you haven&#8217;t got faith in the doer any more. You can  			let go.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: left;"><span style="font-family: Trebuchet MS;">The last  			place, which is hard for a person to see, is the consciousness  			itself, <strong>the mind</strong>. This mind which a lot of people talk about,  			which I talk about a lot, to actually see it in its purity is very,  			very difficult. You see it in <em>Jhanas</em>. What&#8217;s important after  			having a <em>Jhana</em> is having known what the <em>citta</em> is, the  			mind. What the Buddha talked so much about in the suttas, having  			seen that then to apply the <em>satipatthana</em>. Reflect on the mind  			and ask yourself &#8220;is this me?&#8221; That which knows, that which is  			hearing this, which feels all the aches and pains in the body, which  			sees the sights around, which sees the flowers and the sunsets, that  			which sees and experiences. &#8220;Is that what I take to be me?&#8221; And look  			at this whole process of consciousness, the screen on which  			experience is played out. Like the television simile which I gave  			yesterday. A television is a screen on which all these images from  			all these channels are played out. When we&#8217;re looking at the images  			we cannot really be noticing the screen. When it&#8217;s just images  			there, the screen has disappeared. We&#8217;re just focusing on the  			images. When the five senses are playing around, that&#8217;s all we see.  			We cannot see the screen on which all these images are being played  			out. </span></p>
<p style="text-align: left;"><span style="font-family: Trebuchet MS;">In <em>Jhanas</em>,  			you see the screen, and also you start to see the screen dismantle  			itself. The screen which we call consciousness begins to disappear.  			Higher and higher in the Jhanas, more of the screen goes, until in  			the last of the <em>Jhanas</em>, <em><strong>nirodha &#8211; cessation</strong></em>, is  			the cessation of the screen. Consciousness is now gone. To see the  			consciousness going is a very powerful experience. According to the  			suttas, anyone who experiences that state, the cessation of  			consciousness through these <em>Jhanas</em> (I don&#8217;t mean the  			cessation of consciousness through going to sleep at night!), when  			you emerge from that state you&#8217;re either a non-returner or a  			fully-enlightened <strong><em>Arahat</em></strong>. There are only  			those two possibilities. Because having see the cessation of  			consciousness itself, you will never, ever, it&#8217;s impossible, to be  			able to take that as a self, as a me. You&#8217;ve seen that thing, the  			thing we were talking about yesterday, the claw (that&#8217;s a good  			simile which I should have mentioned yesterday… you know the &#8220;thing&#8221;  			in the Addam&#8217;s family, the hand, always grabbing onto things? That&#8217;s  			attachment. That thing is attachment), consciousness or the doer, is  			not you, it cannot be. And the last citadel of the illusion of self  			is broken into, seen to be empty, and then you know that that which  			you took to be a self for so long was just an empty process, that&#8217;s  			all. </span></p>
<p style="text-align: left;"><span style="font-family: Trebuchet MS;">That insight  			into <em>anatta</em> is the insight which arises in a stream-winner,  			entering the stream. It&#8217;s the insight which sees that you have taken  			something to be the self, something to be me or mine for so many  			years, and you just could not see it before but now you can. That&#8217;s  			what insight is. And again that insight is very beautiful and  			wonderful, because once you realize that there&#8217;s no-one here then  			the whole idea of <em><strong>nibbana</strong></em> being just a flame going  			out, never scares you any more. Instead of being something  			completely stupid and awful, something you&#8217;re not really interested  			in at all… because after all, what&#8217;s the point of being enlightened  			if you&#8217;re not there to enjoy it? What&#8217;s the point of just snuffing  			out and going? There&#8217;s too many things to do in the world! Too many  			things to achieve, too many things to experience. But the idea of <em> nibbana</em> as just snuffing out, going out, only makes sense and  			become attractive, becomes the obvious thing, only when one sees the  			truth of not-self. There&#8217;s no-one here anyway. That which you take  			to be you is just an illusion. Once you see that then that is the  			insight, the powerful deep insight, upon which all the subsequent  			insights which lead to the higher states of enlightenment are based.  			This is what one should be doing, this is the purpose of <em>Jhanas</em>,  			the purpose of all those reflections. </span></p>
<p style="text-align: left;"><span style="font-family: Trebuchet MS;">To ask  			yourself, &#8220;What do I take to be me? Who do I think I am? What do I  			perceive, think and view of myself?&#8221; in terms of the four <em> satipatthanas</em>. The afterwards you become enlightened. And if you  			think, those people have had happiness or <em>Jhanas</em> or <em> nimittas</em> during this retreat, if you think that&#8217;s happiness,  			then wait until you get into a nice, powerful, enlightenment  			insight. That&#8217;s much more happiness. So the best is yet to come.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: left;"><span style="font-family: Trebuchet MS;">So that&#8217;s  			insight, and what&#8217;s actually happening, through the factors of the  			Eightfold Path you get <em><strong>samma-nyana</strong></em>, the correct deep  			insights, and <em><strong>samma-vimutti</strong></em>, freedom.</span></p>
<p align="left"><em><strong><span style="font-family: Trebuchet MS; color: #000080;"> Ajahn Brahmavamso<br />
Perth, April 1999</span></strong></em></p>
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<p style="text-align: left;">I was just thinking that it would be  			good for me to put down in writing some sort of timeline for the way  			things have happened for me since starting meditation. Often times  			people read this journal and don&#8217;t understand why I have a  			girlfriend (wife) and live with her here in Thailand &#8211; aren&#8217;t I  			close to enlightenment? Do I need a girlfriend? Do I need sex? This  			might clear it up a bit. The experiences started a long time ago. I  			quit meditating for years and then recently have begun again. Having  			a girlfriend or not having a girlfriend is neither here nor there. I  			can have one. I may not have one. No matter. If tomorrow we go our  			separate ways, no matter&#8230; I&#8217;ve had such a wonderful experience  			knowing her and we&#8217;ve had great times&#8230; but if she is here &#8211;  			wonderful. If not &#8211; it&#8217;s not devastating.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">Whether I&#8217;m close to enlightenment is  			anyone&#8217;s guess. I stopped guessing as I don&#8217;t care anymore.  			Enlightenment, if it&#8217;s to be &#8211; will probably not be earth  			shattering. I&#8217;ve seen a lot already. I&#8217;ve had glimpses of it. It  			will likely be anticlimactic and won&#8217;t matter when it happens.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">Anyway &#8211; here is a timeline of things as  			they occurred. Dates are there if I can remember them. It does go in  			succession earliest events to most recent.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">1995 Read some books by Jiddu  			Krishnamurti, Thich Nhat Hanh, a few Zen books.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">1995 December Went to visit wife&#8217;s  			family in Gibson City, Illinois. She&#8217;s Thai. Her dad and mother were  			born and raised in Thailand and emmigrated to USA so he could become  			a surgeon &#8211; which he did. He showed me meditation, introduced me to  			Forest Meditation ways, sitting meditation, Jack Kornfield books,  			Buddhadassa Bhikku, Ajahn Chah, and S.N. Goenka&#8217;s book about  			Vipassana Meditation. We meditated a few times and he taught me  			basics of Anapanasati.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">1996 After reading Vipassana Meditation  			book by S.N. Goenka I started to sit regularly for 15-30 minutes on  			the floor in a half lotus position.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">During 10 months of this I was able to  			find various levels of concentration&#8230; by focusing on the breath.  			At times I could concentrate on 100 breaths or whatever number I  			chose. When Igot tot that point I changed the meditation to focus on  			what arose &#8211; whatever sensory objects occurred. Sometimes it was  			breath, sometimes pain, sometimes there was nothing at all &#8211; it felt  			as if I had died or the ego had died completely.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">I had many weird experiences during  			these months &#8211; and no teacher. I wasn&#8217;t Buddhist. I wasn&#8217;t anything.  			I was a guy that was just trying meditation by himself &#8211; along the  			lines of what the Buddha did.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">I became a bit concerned by the bizarre  			experiences. They were fantastic and bizarre and I didn&#8217;t know &#8211; was  			I becoming mentally unstable &#8211; or was this natural? Normal? I looked  			for answers from monks living in the USA at Thai Buddhist temples (Theravadan  			monks) and many other resources. Nothing explained the depth of my  			experiences. I could find nothing written about the detailed  			experiences of jhana and other things that were going on inside me.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">Scared I was &#8220;losing my mind&#8221; &#8211; which I  			was, but in a good way I found out later &#8211; I abandoned all  			meditation practice and ran AWAY from it. I read nothing. I didn&#8217;t  			sit anymore. I practiced no mindfulness.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">Immediately the process that used to  			happen ONLY during meditation sessions began happening at any time I  			was awake. I&#8217;d be walking in the park, driving a car, working,  			whatever &#8211; and I&#8217;d slip into a state of pure experience &#8211; where the  			mind was absent. It stopped. There was no naming of anything &#8211; just  			pure experience of things as they were. The process seemed to be  			going on by itself. The &#8220;Letting go&#8221; or running from the process  			seemed to have started it in earnest &#8211; much more intense than it was  			before. This went on for months &#8211; well, years &#8211; but for months very  			often a few times a day down to it&#8217;s present level of once every  			couple days on average.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">1997-2004 No meditation or mindfulness  			practice. The process still came sometimes and I didn&#8217;t push it away  			- but I didn&#8217;t encourage it &#8211; I just ignored it and let it happen  			and go away. It came and went over the years as it did without any  			input or reaction from me.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">2004. I finally found SantiKaro &#8211; an  			ex-Buddhist monk that told me he thought my experiences sounded like  			Jhana. They were normal experiences. I was amazed that the  			experiences were normal. I meditated a couple times to see &#8211; could  			the mind easily stop like before as I sat? It did. It came very  			easily compared to when I first started to meditate so many years  			ago.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">2004 November I moved to Thailand. I met  			with some senior monks who told me the experiences were jhana and  			that I could continue to practice with them at the temple. I  			declined. I started meditating a little bit &#8211; nothing regular &#8211; but  			if the process came to me &#8211; I&#8217;d sit and watch what happened, not  			attaching to it &#8211; just watch. Sometimes I&#8217;d sit and focus on breath.  			When the mind calmed, then stopped I&#8217;d watch other sense objects &#8211;  			pain, heat, thought if it popped up, sounds, etc.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">2007 I was living near a temple in Krabi  			Thailand that had a long flight of stairs to walk up. So, I&#8217;d walk  			up for exercise a couple times a week. Then daily. Sometimes I&#8217;d  			meditate at the top. I began having some intense experiences, one of  			which was a period of over 6 hours of no thought &#8211; no ego &#8211; no  			emotion &#8211; no drives &#8211; no ambition &#8211; no anything&#8230; It occured at the  			top of the mountain &#8211; and lasted the whole day and evening. I&#8217;ve  			detailed it here on the journal somewhere.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">Recently (2008) when I&#8217;ve sat to  			meditate I notice that there is no &#8216;watcher&#8217; to watch the breath at  			all. To watch the breath &#8211; to focus on it requires something that  			isn&#8217;t inside anymore. It&#8217;s gone for some reason. There is none of  			the usual thing that watches breath when there is silence.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">When there&#8217;s silence now &#8211; when I let  			the mind stop &#8211; and just watch &#8211; there is nothing watching. There is  			just silence &#8211; the most profound silence. Stillness.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">It&#8217;s as if I&#8217;m in that state &#8211; where  			there is no time, no wanting, no being, no happiness or unhappiness  			- no dichotomy. Nothing is running through the mind filter &#8211; it&#8217;s  			just pure. Nothing is changed by the mind &#8211; just experienced as it  			comes up and goes away&#8230; rising and falling of different objects  			are noticed&#8230;</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">That can go on as long as I let it &#8211; but  			usually I just sit 30 minutes or so and then get up and do whatever  			I felt like doing.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">That&#8217;s the state I&#8217;m in now. While the  			mind is working &#8211; doing things during the day &#8211; it is active and  			does them. When I stop mind candy coming in &#8211; music, computer, doing  			something &#8211; there is absolute stillness of the mind immediately.  			It&#8217;s quite odd!</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">I&#8217;ve been thinking to get a bicycle and  			roam around to temples here during the day and sit when I felt like  			it and be mindful of the stillness the rest of the time. I&#8217;d like to  			keep a journal of some sort &#8211; but usually when I get in any kind of  			regular practice the desire to keep a journal of any sort disappears  			quickly. There&#8217;s just no motivation in that state to be recording  			anything &#8211; to be doing anything &#8211; what is it worth? What is the  			purpose? Now I can see the purpose &#8211; to share it &#8211; but, in that  			state &#8211; when it&#8217;s so silent and any doing &#8211; is not worth it &#8211; it&#8217;s  			impossible to contradict it and record something consistently.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">I went for months without writing in my  			journal after about 5 months of meditation because the urge to  			record disappeared. I think the same would happen this time.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;"> <img src='http://www.jhana8.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p style="text-align: left;">So &#8211; as it is today I&#8217;ll use the  			restroom and eat my bananas, drink my instant coffee and walk up the  			temple steps. That&#8217;s what&#8217;s planned. If it happens &#8211; great. If not &#8211;  			no matter.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">Not sure if there will be any decision  			to go mobile and live at the temples for a while, guess we&#8217;ll see  			what happens. There&#8217;s no feeling that I need to. Yet no feeling that  			I need to continue in this way &#8211; working on internet and going about  			life in the way I have for the past year either. Sometimes I think  			that this might be a good chance to let it all go for a few months  			and see what occurs. Sometimes I think &#8211; no matter, can do that  			anywhere.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">Sometimes I think &#8211; and sometimes I  			don&#8217;t.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">What if I was just quiet for an entire  			day? 2-weeks? 10 months?</p>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p style="text-align: left;">I was just thinking that it would be  			good for me to put down in writing some sort of timeline for the way  			things have happened for me since starting meditation. Often times  			people read this journal and don&#8217;t understand why I have a  			girlfriend (wife) and live with her here in Thailand &#8211; aren&#8217;t I  			close to enlightenment? Do I need a girlfriend? Do I need sex? This  			might clear it up a bit. The experiences started a long time ago. I  			quit meditating for years and then recently have begun again. Having  			a girlfriend or not having a girlfriend is neither here nor there. I  			can have one. I may not have one. No matter. If tomorrow we go our  			separate ways, no matter&#8230; I&#8217;ve had such a wonderful experience  			knowing her and we&#8217;ve had great times&#8230; but if she is here &#8211;  			wonderful. If not &#8211; it&#8217;s not devastating.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">Whether I&#8217;m close to enlightenment is  			anyone&#8217;s guess. I stopped guessing as I don&#8217;t care anymore.  			Enlightenment, if it&#8217;s to be &#8211; will probably not be earth  			shattering. I&#8217;ve seen a lot already. I&#8217;ve had glimpses of it. It  			will likely be anticlimactic and won&#8217;t matter when it happens.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">Anyway &#8211; here is a timeline of things as  			they occurred. Dates are there if I can remember them. It does go in  			succession earliest events to most recent.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">1995 Read some books by Jiddu  			Krishnamurti, Thich Nhat Hanh, a few Zen books.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">1995 December Went to visit wife&#8217;s  			family in Gibson City, Illinois. She&#8217;s Thai. Her dad and mother were  			born and raised in Thailand and emmigrated to USA so he could become  			a surgeon &#8211; which he did. He showed me meditation, introduced me to  			Forest Meditation ways, sitting meditation, Jack Kornfield books,  			Buddhadassa Bhikku, Ajahn Chah, and S.N. Goenka&#8217;s book about  			Vipassana Meditation. We meditated a few times and he taught me  			basics of Anapanasati.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">1996 After reading Vipassana Meditation  			book by S.N. Goenka I started to sit regularly for 15-30 minutes on  			the floor in a half lotus position.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">During 10 months of this I was able to  			find various levels of concentration&#8230; by focusing on the breath.  			At times I could concentrate on 100 breaths or whatever number I  			chose. When I got tot that point I changed the meditation to focus on  			what arose &#8211; whatever sensory objects occurred. Sometimes it was  			breath, sometimes pain, sometimes there was nothing at all &#8211; it felt  			as if I had died or the ego had died completely.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">I had many weird experiences during  			these months &#8211; and no teacher. I wasn&#8217;t Buddhist. I wasn&#8217;t anything.  			I was a guy that was just trying meditation by himself &#8211; along the  			lines of what the Buddha did. I didn&#8217;t have any ideas about becoming enlightened or progressing far down the path toward nirvana&#8230; I sat mostly to relax my mind from stressful days working.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">I became a bit concerned by the bizarre  			experiences. They were fantastic and bizarre and I didn&#8217;t know &#8211; was  			I becoming mentally unstable &#8211; or was this natural? Normal? I looked  			for answers from monks living in the USA at Thai Buddhist temples (Theravadan  			monks) and many other resources. Nothing explained the depth of my  			experiences. I could find nothing written about the detailed  			experiences of jhana and other things that were going on inside me.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">Scared I was &#8220;losing my mind&#8221; &#8211; which I  			was, but in a good way I found out later &#8211; I abandoned all  			meditation practice and ran AWAY from it. I read nothing. I didn&#8217;t  			sit anymore. I practiced no mindfulness.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">Immediately the process that used to  			happen ONLY during meditation sessions began happening at any time I  			was awake. I&#8217;d be walking in the park, driving a car, working,  			whatever &#8211; and I&#8217;d slip into a state of pure experience &#8211; where the  			mind was absent. It stopped. There was no naming of anything &#8211; just  			pure experience of things as they were. The process seemed to be  			going on by itself. The &#8220;Letting go&#8221; or running from the process  			seemed to have started it in earnest &#8211; much more intense than it was  			before. This went on for months &#8211; well, years &#8211; but for months very  			often a few times a day down to it&#8217;s present level of once every  			couple days on average.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">1997-2004 No meditation or mindfulness  			practice. Well, very, very little. I was afraid of it. The process still came sometimes and I didn&#8217;t push it away  			- but I didn&#8217;t encourage it &#8211; I just ignored it and let it happen  			and go away. It came and went over the years as it did without any  			input or reaction from me.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">2004. I finally found Santikaro &#8211; an  			ex-Buddhist monk that told me he thought my experiences sounded like  			Jhana. They were normal experiences. I was amazed that the  			experiences were normal. I meditated a couple times to see &#8211; could  			the mind easily stop like before as I sat? It did. It came very  			easily compared to when I first started to meditate so many years  			ago.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">2004 November I moved to Thailand. I met  			with some senior monks who told me the experiences were jhana and  			that I could continue to practice with them at the temple. I  			declined. I started meditating a little bit &#8211; nothing regular &#8211; but  			if the process came to me &#8211; I&#8217;d sit and watch what happened, not  			attaching to it &#8211; just watch. Sometimes I&#8217;d sit and focus on breath.  			When the mind calmed, then stopped I&#8217;d watch other sense objects &#8211;  			pain, heat, thought if it popped up, sounds, etc.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">2005 I visited Wat Pah Nanachat and spoke with the abbot of the temple who told me the experiences I had sounded like jhana &#8211; and why don&#8217;t I stay at Wat Pah as long as I like?</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">2007 I was living near a temple in Krabi  			Thailand that had a long flight of stairs to walk up. So, I&#8217;d walk  			up for exercise a couple times a week. Then daily. Sometimes I&#8217;d  			meditate at the top. I began having some intense experiences, one of  			which was a period of over 6 hours of no thought &#8211; no ego &#8211; no  			emotion &#8211; no drives &#8211; no ambition &#8211; no anything&#8230; It occured at the  			top of the mountain &#8211; and lasted the whole day and evening. I&#8217;ve  			detailed it here on the journal somewhere.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">Recently (2008) when I&#8217;ve sat to  			meditate I notice that there is no &#8216;watcher&#8217; to watch the breath at  			all. To watch the breath &#8211; to focus on it requires something that  			isn&#8217;t inside anymore. It&#8217;s gone for some reason. There is none of  			the usual thing that watches breath when there is silence.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">When there&#8217;s silence now &#8211; when I let  			the mind stop &#8211; and just watch &#8211; there is nothing watching. There is  			just silence &#8211; the most profound silence. Stillness.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">It&#8217;s as if I&#8217;m in that state &#8211; where  			there is no time, no wanting, no being, no happiness or unhappiness  			- no dichotomy. Nothing is running through the mind filter &#8211; it&#8217;s  			just pure. Nothing is changed by the mind &#8211; just experienced as it  			comes up and goes away&#8230; rising and falling of different objects  			are noticed&#8230;</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">That can go on as long as I let it &#8211; but  			usually I just sit 30 minutes or so and then get up and do whatever  			I felt like doing.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">That&#8217;s the state I&#8217;m in now. While the  			mind is working &#8211; doing things during the day &#8211; it is active and  			does them. When I stop mind candy coming in &#8211; music, computer, doing  			something &#8211; there is absolute stillness of the mind immediately.  			It&#8217;s quite odd!</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">I&#8217;ve been thinking to get a bicycle and  			roam around to temples here during the day and sit when I felt like  			it and be mindful of the stillness the rest of the time. I&#8217;d like to  			keep a journal of some sort &#8211; but usually when I get in any kind of  			regular practice the desire to keep a journal of any sort disappears  			quickly. There&#8217;s just no motivation in that state to be recording  			anything &#8211; to be doing anything &#8211; what is it worth? What is the  			purpose? Now I can see the purpose &#8211; to share it &#8211; but, in that  			state &#8211; when it&#8217;s so silent and any doing &#8211; is not worth it &#8211; it&#8217;s  			impossible to contradict it and record something consistently.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">I went for months without writing in my  			journal after about 5 months of meditation because the urge to  			record disappeared. I think the same would happen this time.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;"> <img src='http://www.jhana8.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p style="text-align: left;">So &#8211; as it is today I&#8217;ll use the  			restroom and eat my bananas, drink my instant coffee and walk up the  			temple steps. That&#8217;s what&#8217;s planned. If it happens &#8211; great. If not &#8211;  			no matter.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">Not sure if there will be any decision  			to go mobile and live at the temples for a while, guess we&#8217;ll see  			what happens. There&#8217;s no feeling that I need to. Yet no feeling that  			I need to continue in this way &#8211; working on internet and going about  			life in the way I have for the past year either. Sometimes I think  			that this might be a good chance to let it all go for a few months  			and see what occurs. Sometimes I think &#8211; no matter, can do that  			anywhere.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">Sometimes I think &#8211; and sometimes I  			don&#8217;t.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">What if I was just quiet for an entire  			day? 2-weeks? 10 months?</p>
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